FvCvD Tournament!

Well, I am finished with the new tournament, and how would you guys like this idea:


Note: This is NOT team-based, it's everyone for themselves.

2010 Ford Shelby GT500 A600
2010 Chevy Camaro A600
2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8 A600

All cars are required to be A600, and RWD This ensures that each car has a balanced performance level compared to each other. If one car has too much of a performance gain over the other 2, then that car's PI will be lowered.

Schedule
1st Race: Road Atlanta Full Circuit
Date: July 5th
Laps: 15
Time: Lobby 1: 8:00 PM GMT-5
Lobby 2: 7:00 PM GMT 0
Lobby 3: 8:00 PM GMT-5
Drivers: 1-8 (9-16 if there are enough drivers)

Gamertag: A Hemi Engine
Driver #: 778
Car: Dodge Challenger
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-8

Gamertag: Lukenasia
Driver #: 012
Car: Chevrolet Camaro SS '10
Fee paid:Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: IrishProShooter
Driver #: 206
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Raine88
Driver #: 014
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Serayen
Driver: 001
Car: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Robinvaults
Driver #: 071
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0?

Gamertag: o0 Signal 20 0o
Driver #: 027
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: --
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: HuggiesRelapse
Driver #: 154
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: CJs87Stang
Driver #: 087
Car: 2010 Ford Shelby Mustang GT500
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-6

Gamertag: SavageTheDragon
Driver #: 09
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-7

Gamertag: hillcrest34
Driver #: 190
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0, racing GMT-5

Gamertag: RUMPLEXXXSKIN
Driver #: 720
Car: 2010 Shelby GT500
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -7

Gamertag: TURTLETIME74
Driver # 302
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid:--
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: Retpetty
Driver #:715
Car: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8
Fee paid:yes
Timezone: GMT-8

Gamertag: SallyMac
Driver #: 805
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: Pacific?

Gamertag: Kiba Stryker
Driver #: 331
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -6


Gamertag: BDF2KILLER
Driver #: 996
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -5?

Gamertag: BnFGreenGorilla
Driver #: 580
Car: Dodge Challenger SRT8 09'
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: sidfire1
Driver #: 059
Car: Dodge Challenger SRT8 09'
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT+10


2nd Race: Silverstone Grand Prix Circuit
Date: July 6th
Laps: 13
Time: Lobby 1: 8:00 PM GMT-5
Lobby 2: 7:00 PM GMT 0
Lobby 3: 8:00 PM GMT-5
Drivers: 1-8 (9-16 if there are enough drivers)

Gamertag: A Hemi Engine
Driver #: 778
Car: Dodge Challenger
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-8

Gamertag: Lukenasia
Driver #: 012
Car: Chevrolet Camaro SS '10
Fee paid:Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: IrishProShooter
Driver #: 206
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Raine88
Driver #: 014
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Serayen
Driver: 001
Car: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Robinvaults
Driver #: 071
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0?

Gamertag: o0 Signal 20 0o
Driver #: 027
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: --
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: CJs87Stang
Driver #: 087
Car: 2010 Ford Shelby Mustang GT500
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-6

Gamertag: HuggiesRelapse
Driver #: 154
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: SavageTheDragon
Driver #: 09
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-7

Gamertag: hillcrest34
Driver #: 190
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0, racing GMT-5

Gamertag: RUMPLEXXXSKIN
Driver #: 720
Car: 2010 Shelby GT500
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -7

Gamertag: TURTLETIME74
Driver # 302
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid:--
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: Retpetty
Driver #:715
Car: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8
Fee paid:yes
Timezone: GMT-8

Gamertag: SallyMac
Driver #: 805
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: Pacific?

Gamertag: Kiba Stryker
Driver #: 331
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -6


Gamertag: BDF2KILLER
Driver #: 996
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -5?

Gamertag: BnFGreenGorilla
Driver #: 580
Car: Dodge Challenger SRT8 09'
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: sidfire1
Driver #: 059
Car: Dodge Challenger SRT8 09'
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT+10


3rd Race: Sunset Peninsula Raceway Full Circuit
Date: July 7th
Laps: 14
Time: Lobby 1: 8:00 PM GMT-5
Lobby 2: 7:00 PM GMT 0
Lobby 3: 8:00 PM GMT-5
Drivers: 1-8 (9-16 if there are enough drivers)

Gamertag: A Hemi Engine
Driver #: 778
Car: Dodge Challenger
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-8

Gamertag: Lukenasia
Driver #: 012
Car: Chevrolet Camaro SS '10
Fee paid:Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: IrishProShooter
Driver #: 206
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Raine88
Driver #: 014
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Serayen
Driver: 001
Car: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Robinvaults
Driver #: 071
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0?

Gamertag: o0 Signal 20 0o
Driver #: 027
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: --
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: CJs87Stang
Driver #: 087
Car: 2010 Ford Shelby Mustang GT500
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-6

Gamertag: HuggiesRelapse
Driver #: 154
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: SavageTheDragon
Driver #: 09
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-7

Gamertag: hillcrest34
Driver #: 190
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0, racing GMT-5

Gamertag: RUMPLEXXXSKIN
Driver #: 720
Car: 2010 Shelby GT500
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -7

Gamertag: TURTLETIME74
Driver # 302
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid:--
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: Retpetty
Driver #:715
Car: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8
Fee paid:yes
Timezone: GMT-8

Gamertag: SallyMac
Driver #: 805
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: Pacific?

Gamertag: Kiba Stryker
Driver #: 331
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -6


Gamertag: BDF2KILLER
Driver #: 996
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -5?

Gamertag: BnFGreenGorilla
Driver #: 580
Car: Dodge Challenger SRT8 09'
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: sidfire1
Driver #: 059
Car: Dodge Challenger SRT8 09'
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT+10


4th Race: Maple Valley Raceway Full Circuit
Date: July 8th
Laps: 13
Time: Lobby 1: 8:00 PM GMT-5
Lobby 2: 7:00 PM GMT 0
Lobby 3: 8:00 PM GMT-5
Drivers: 1-8 (9-16 if there are enough drivers)

Gamertag: A Hemi Engine
Driver #: 778
Car: Dodge Challenger
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-8

Gamertag: Lukenasia
Driver #: 012
Car: Chevrolet Camaro SS '10
Fee paid:Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: IrishProShooter
Driver #: 206
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Raine88
Driver #: 014
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Serayen
Driver: 001
Car: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Robinvaults
Driver #: 071
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0?

Gamertag: o0 Signal 20 0o
Driver #: 027
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: --
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: CJs87Stang
Driver #: 087
Car: 2010 Ford Shelby Mustang GT500
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-6

Gamertag: HuggiesRelapse
Driver #: 154
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: SavageTheDragon
Driver #: 09
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-7

Gamertag: hillcrest34
Driver #: 190
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0, racing GMT-5

Gamertag: RUMPLEXXXSKIN
Driver #: 720
Car: 2010 Shelby GT500
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -7

Gamertag: TURTLETIME74
Driver # 302
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid:--
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: Retpetty
Driver #:715
Car: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8
Fee paid:yes
Timezone: GMT-8

Gamertag: SallyMac
Driver #: 805
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: Pacific?

Gamertag: Kiba Stryker
Driver #: 331
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -6


Gamertag: BDF2KILLER
Driver #: 996
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -5?

Gamertag: BnFGreenGorilla
Driver #: 580
Car: Dodge Challenger SRT8 09'
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: sidfire1
Driver #: 059
Car: Dodge Challenger SRT8 09'
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT+10


5th Race (Final) Iberian International Circuit Full Circuit
Date: July 9th
Laps: 30
Time: Lobby 1: 8:00 PM GMT-5
Lobby 2: 7:00 PM GMT 0
Lobby 3: 8:00 PM GMT-5
Drivers: 1-8 (9-16 if there are enough drivers)

Gamertag: A Hemi Engine
Driver #: 778
Car: Dodge Challenger
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-8

Gamertag: Lukenasia
Driver #: 012
Car: Chevrolet Camaro SS '10
Fee paid:Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: IrishProShooter
Driver #: 206
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Raine88
Driver #: 014
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Serayen
Driver: 001
Car: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0

Gamertag: Robinvaults
Driver #: 071
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0?

Gamertag: o0 Signal 20 0o
Driver #: 027
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: --
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: CJs87Stang
Driver #: 087
Car: 2010 Ford Shelby Mustang GT500
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-6

Gamertag: HuggiesRelapse
Driver #: 154
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: SavageTheDragon
Driver #: 09
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT-7

Gamertag: hillcrest34
Driver #: 190
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT 0, racing GMT-5

Gamertag: RUMPLEXXXSKIN
Driver #: 720
Car: 2010 Shelby GT500
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -7

Gamertag: TURTLETIME74
Driver # 302
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid:--
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: Retpetty
Driver #:715
Car: 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8
Fee paid:yes
Timezone: GMT-8

Gamertag: SallyMac
Driver #: 805
Car: Shelby GT500 2010
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: Pacific?

Gamertag: Kiba Stryker
Driver #: 331
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -6


Gamertag: BDF2KILLER
Driver #: 996
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee Paid: --
Timezone: GMT -5?

Gamertag: BnFGreenGorilla
Driver #: 580
Car: Dodge Challenger SRT8 09'
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT -5

Gamertag: sidfire1
Driver #: 059
Car: Dodge Challenger SRT8 09'
Fee Paid: Yes
Timezone: GMT+10

MUST READ RULESET:

1. Aggressive blocking: There will be times when you're the slower car, but somehow ended up out in front. Defending your position is perfectly fine, but aggressively blocking faster cars is not appreciated. Making a single defensive maneuver is appropriate, such as scooting low to take up the inside line heading into a turn. Suddenly veering in front of a car passing you is not. Best case scenario is someone ends up driving off-track to avoid a collision. Worst case scenario creates an accident involving you, the car behind you, and anyone else following that couldn't swerve out of the way fast enough.

2. Rear-end collisions: Yeah, they happen to the best of us. You're blazing down the straight, catching up to the leader, when the next turn sneaks up on you. Brakes lock up, tires squeal, and the next thing you know you've punted someone off the track. In this situation, it's best for you to pull to the side a bit to get out of the way of traffic, and let the car you've hit back in front. Unfortunately, this may cost you multiple positions, but that's all the more reason to be sure you're careful when following another car.

3. Cutting corners: This one is a little trickier. The easiest situation to address is when you're following another car, but somehow completely mess up the corner and cut right through the grass or tarmac off-track. If this little shortcut put you in front of the other driver, it's best to slow down and let them retake the position. Another situation might involve you out in front, and you take a shortcut to extend your advantage. Letting someone back in front each time this happens might not be the best solution. If it becomes a regular problem, we may message you about it, and eventually stop inviting you to casual races altogether. If it appears shortcutting is an intentional strategy used in an official competition, you may be disqualified.

4. Quarter-panel tap: This will usually happen as you're trying to pass a car on the inside, and as a result of lost grip you tap the inside quarter-panel of the leading car. The car in front will often lose grip, start sliding, and lose speed, which allows you to pass, or they'll completely lose control and fly off the track. In either situation, in an obvious bump you should slow to allow the tapped car to retake the position. Bumping cars out of the way to pass is not real racing, unless you're driving in NASCAR.

5. Leaderboard cars and AWD upgrades: Despite what it says in the recruitment page, MSM does have a tolerance for the leaderboard cars and AWD upgrades, but really these should only be taken by drivers who are struggling to close the gap with faster drivers or are still learning the ropes in driving technique and assists. Think of these as training wheels. Eventually, they have to come off, and so eventually you should be able to shed these cars to expand into everything else Forza has to offer. Anyway, we'll have so many showdowns and spec races not using these cars, you'll be out of practice once we do.

That's it for now. We may expend this information as time goes by. As the saying goes, you can't win the race in the first turn, but you can lose it there. Try to be courteous on the track. When in doubt, ask yourself "What would Stirling Moss do?"


I just want to touch base again on a point mentioned above: aggressive blocking. We have a wide range of skills on our team, and so occasionally a driver will put down lap times a second or two quicker than another. I'm not trying to say these slower cars should go out of their way to make space the faster competitors to pass them by with a wave and a wink. There is a right and a wrong way to defend your position, though.

In the example I experienced, which involved a non-MSM driver, I was in third place and trailing the two lead cars by about 2 seconds. Within a lap and a half I was able to close within a pretty close distance to witness some ruthless driving. The 2nd place driver exited the turn a bit faster than the lead driver, and so positioned himself to pass low on the straightaway. Just as the 2nd place driver got close enough to pass, the 1st place driver jerked his car in front, causing the 2nd place driver to get hard on his brakes. The aggressive maneuver caused the lead driver to lose grip a bit and so slowed him down, allowing me to catch up.

On the very next turn the 2nd place driver attempted another pass, only to have the lead driver repeat the same sudden block and slow both cars. I pounced on the opportunity and managed to pass both vehicles easily, giving me a fortunate victory.

Like all skills, learning to drive defensibly and safely, while still having fun and being competitive, takes practice. It might seem weird, but don't be afraid to ask questions. I try to be as open and honest about racing as I can be. Being a middle-of-the-road driver has given me a perspective from both ends of this scenario.

Also, I'd like to add, perhaps, the most important thing to consider: no matter WHAT happens, don't lose your cool. There have been times where someone gets knocked off the road and the driver doing the knocking thought it was a clean pass. On observing the replay, it appears to be a clean pass, but yet the crashed driver feels getting hit, and, indeed, is spun out of control.

This is most likely due to network lag - we've probably all experienced moments where cars seem to move suddenly, float in the air, etc.

The point is that sometimes technical issues can cause bad things to happen in Forza - don't jump to conclusions. Look at the review, discuss it with your team leader, etc. It is a game, no need to lose your cool, even IF it turns out that someone's being a total jerk. Most likely it was an honest mistake or, as I've attempted to illustrate, a technical issue.

So... To let the Lobby Host's know... When we start races, we need to let the leader of the race know when it's time for YELLOW FLAG. When someone spins out caused by another vehicle, or gets hit by another vehicle (collision), or crashed into another vehicle, you need to say Yellow Flag. When Yellow Flag takes place, the leader of the race MUST act as Safety Car, and they need to drive at about 60 MPH until those people (who have caused such accident or spin outs) catch up. Then once they have caught up and crossed the finish line, then you may proceed with the rest of the race. Only time when Yellow Flag takes place is if Two or more vehicles in a collision/accident.
Do not let this get away otherwise it will not be a fair race against everyone.

Prizes:
First Place: 1,000,000 CR
Second Place: 750,000 CR
Third Place: 250,000 CR


Points:
First Place: 5 Points
Second Place: 4 Points
Third Place: 3 Points
Fourth Place: 2 Points
Fifth Place: 1 Point
Sixth-Eight: Nothing

Winner is determined by person with most points at the end of the five races.


Participation is not needed at all races, but only if you want to win.

Points:

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Fee: Search "FLR FCD" in SF

Submission:
Gamertag:
Driver #:
Track 1 Car:
Track 2 Car:
Track 3 Car:
Track 4 Car:
Track 5 Car:
Fee paid:

Oh man, can't make it at all. Going to be gone for 3 weeks. I would have went with Dodge

Can you stipulate that all cars must remain RWD? Not sure, but I think there may ba a AWD upgrade for the 'Stang. (Then again, it is a Ford - maybe the added help would make it competitive. )

All cars are RWD.

I was just thinking that Camaro would need awd to go in a straight line, curved line, or any form of line...might wanna allow AWD.

No way, TCS can take care of that.

If I could participate in this I'd be all for the Camaro.

If the times are when I can be on' I'm in, though I'll have to rebuild my stang

Oh crap, I'm away next week :/

try and make this one. i`d go for the GT500 for sure

I am also interested in this one too, will probably run with the Camero. Salt is there set tunes we can download or something, or do we need to provide our own?, I did try looking for "FLR FCD" in the SF but was confused on what it was exactly, a tune, paint, vinyl?

im in, if the times work out.

Its a vinyl: FLR FVCVD:

YOU MUST HAVE THIS ON YOUR CAR FOR THE TOURNAMENT!

im keen on this, but it depends on how the timezones work out

I'm down, I coming back home on the morning of the 5th (Central Time - Texas)

Gamer: MSMX6
Number: 08
Car: 2010 Chevy Camaro SS
Fee Paid: Yes
Time: Central Texas Time

Bad time to take a vacation

Ah well

I would have taken the dodge

Man, I would have loved to participate in that one, but i will be out almost all of those days......

love the idea but a week of racing right at the 4th for me pretty much can't happen

Gamertag: A Hemi Engine
Driver #:778
Track 1 Car:Dodge Challenger
Track 2 Car:Dodge Challenger
Track 3 Car:Dodge Challenger
Track 4 Car:Dodge Challenger
Track 5 Car:Dodge Challenger
Fee paid:yes

There's a chance that I can make the date on the 5th as it's my day off from work anyway, so I should be able to make almost any time for that one...the rest are going to be completely dependent on time of day and when I would get home from work....two big "what ifs" for me beyond the monday time slot.

Oh, and I'd be in a Dodge.

I'll register as long as there is flexibility in the races on the timezones, as I work full time, and I don't want to bother racing, if I don't have a chance to win.

Basically, if I can't make all the races, I don't want to participate in any of them.

It is still worth it, since you can still get first place in 2-3 races and still win overall.

I hear you.

Let me run some cars and tune a bit and I'll properly register.

Any A600 RWD Ford/Chevy/Dodge

Gamertag:IrishProShooter
Driver #:206
Track 1 Car:10' Shelby GT500
Track 2 Car:10' Shelby GT500
Track 3 Car:10' Shelby GT500
Track 4 Car:10' Shelby GT500
Track 5 Car:10' Shelby GT500
Fee paid:5000