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Saltine713 Honorary Member
Join date : 2009-12-19
| Subject: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:49 pm | |
| Around the World and Back
Around the World and Back (ATWAB) is intended to cover all of the major areas of the world, from America, Italy, Germany, England, France, and Japan. The first race starts on an American track and the last race finishes on the same track.
Rookies will be racing rookies, pros will be racing pros. That way everyone has an equal chance. The final winner will be determined based on how many points the person has from all of the races. All races will be Spec races with the exception of allowing certain upgrades in my tune.
[center]I: How to Enter 1. Go to the FM3 storefront and search "ATWAB" in vinyls and it will bring you to my Storefront. Then buy that vinyl for 25,000 CR. YOU MUST DISPLAY THIS VINYL ON EACH SIDE OF YOUR CAR DURING EACH TOURNAMENT RACE2. Tunes: Update:
Tunes will not be bought. You can make your own tune, but with ONLY the following optional (highly recommended parts)
A: Engine and Power -Air Filter: Race -Fuel System: Race -Ignition: Race -Exhaust: Race -Camshaft: Race -Valves: Race -Displacement: Race -Pistons and Compression: Race -Race Aspiration if it applies -Race Intercooler if it applies -Race Flywheel
B: Platform and Handling -Brakes: Sport -Springs and Dampers: Sport -Anti Roll Bars: Sport -No chasis reinforcement -Race Weight Reduction
C: Drivetrain -Race Clutch -Sport Transmission -Race Driveline -Stock Differential
D: Tires and Rims -Race Tire Compound -Stock Tire Widths -Stock Rim Sizes -Any rims3. Post your registration IN THIS FORMAT: Gamertag: Timezone: (in GMT-form) Lobby 1 or 2: (Lobby 1 is American Racers, Lobby 2 is for European) Bought Vinyl?: (Y/N) Skill Level: 1 being best, 5 being rookie. Now with this, please be honest. You want to win right? Well if you are a pro and you are racing rookies, you will be disqualified if we see a large gap in lap times that is more similar to a higher skill level. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- II. Ruleset: - Spoiler:
MUST READ RULESET:
1. Aggressive blocking: There will be times when you're the slower car, but somehow ended up out in front. Defending your position is perfectly fine, but aggressively blocking faster cars is not appreciated. Making a single defensive maneuver is appropriate, such as scooting low to take up the inside line heading into a turn. Suddenly veering in front of a car passing you is not. Best case scenario is someone ends up driving off-track to avoid a collision. Worst case scenario creates an accident involving you, the car behind you, and anyone else following that couldn't swerve out of the way fast enough.
2. Rear-end collisions: Yeah, they happen to the best of us. You're blazing down the straight, catching up to the leader, when the next turn sneaks up on you. Brakes lock up, tires squeal, and the next thing you know you've punted someone off the track. In this situation, it's best for you to pull to the side a bit to get out of the way of traffic, and let the car you've hit back in front. Unfortunately, this may cost you multiple positions, but that's all the more reason to be sure you're careful when following another car.
3. Cutting corners: This one is a little trickier. The easiest situation to address is when you're following another car, but somehow completely mess up the corner and cut right through the grass or tarmac off-track. If this little shortcut put you in front of the other driver, it's best to slow down and let them retake the position. Another situation might involve you out in front, and you take a shortcut to extend your advantage. Letting someone back in front each time this happens might not be the best solution. If it becomes a regular problem, we may message you about it, and eventually stop inviting you to casual races altogether. If it appears shortcutting is an intentional strategy used in an official competition, you may be disqualified.
4. Quarter-panel tap: This will usually happen as you're trying to pass a car on the inside, and as a result of lost grip you tap the inside quarter-panel of the leading car. The car in front will often lose grip, start sliding, and lose speed, which allows you to pass, or they'll completely lose control and fly off the track. In either situation, in an obvious bump you should slow to allow the tapped car to retake the position. Bumping cars out of the way to pass is not real racing, unless you're driving in NASCAR.
5. Leaderboard cars and AWD upgrades: Despite what it says in the recruitment page, MSM does have a tolerance for the leaderboard cars and AWD upgrades, but really these should only be taken by drivers who are struggling to close the gap with faster drivers or are still learning the ropes in driving technique and assists. Think of these as training wheels. Eventually, they have to come off, and so eventually you should be able to shed these cars to expand into everything else Forza has to offer. Anyway, we'll have so many showdowns and spec races not using these cars, you'll be out of practice once we do.
That's it for now. We may expend this information as time goes by. As the saying goes, you can't win the race in the first turn, but you can lose it there. Try to be courteous on the track. When in doubt, ask yourself "What would Stirling Moss do?"
I just want to touch base again on a point mentioned above: aggressive blocking. We have a wide range of skills on our team, and so occasionally a driver will put down lap times a second or two quicker than another. I'm not trying to say these slower cars should go out of their way to make space the faster competitors to pass them by with a wave and a wink. There is a right and a wrong way to defend your position, though.
In the example I experienced, which involved a non-MSM driver, I was in third place and trailing the two lead cars by about 2 seconds. Within a lap and a half I was able to close within a pretty close distance to witness some ruthless driving. The 2nd place driver exited the turn a bit faster than the lead driver, and so positioned himself to pass low on the straightaway. Just as the 2nd place driver got close enough to pass, the 1st place driver jerked his car in front, causing the 2nd place driver to get hard on his brakes. The aggressive maneuver caused the lead driver to lose grip a bit and so slowed him down, allowing me to catch up.
On the very next turn the 2nd place driver attempted another pass, only to have the lead driver repeat the same sudden block and slow both cars. I pounced on the opportunity and managed to pass both vehicles easily, giving me a fortunate victory.
Like all skills, learning to drive defensibly and safely, while still having fun and being competitive, takes practice. It might seem weird, but don't be afraid to ask questions. I try to be as open and honest about racing as I can be. Being a middle-of-the-road driver has given me a perspective from both ends of this scenario.
Also, I'd like to add, perhaps, the most important thing to consider: no matter WHAT happens, don't lose your cool. There have been times where someone gets knocked off the road and the driver doing the knocking thought it was a clean pass. On observing the replay, it appears to be a clean pass, but yet the crashed driver feels getting hit, and, indeed, is spun out of control.
This is most likely due to network lag - we've probably all experienced moments where cars seem to move suddenly, float in the air, etc.
The point is that sometimes technical issues can cause bad things to happen in Forza - don't jump to conclusions. Look at the review, discuss it with your team leader, etc. It is a game, no need to lose your cool, even IF it turns out that someone's being a total jerk. Most likely it was an honest mistake or, as I've attempted to illustrate, a technical issue.
So... To let the Lobby Host's know... When we start races, we need to let the leader of the race know when it's time for YELLOW FLAG. When someone spins out caused by another vehicle, or gets hit by another vehicle (collision), or crashed into another vehicle, you need to say Yellow Flag. When Yellow Flag takes place, the leader of the race MUST act as Safety Car, and they need to drive at about 60 MPH until those people (who have caused such accident or spin outs) catch up. Then once they have caught up and crossed the finish line, then you may proceed with the rest of the race. Only time when Yellow Flag takes place is if Two or more vehicles in a collision/accident. Do not let this get away otherwise it will not be a fair race against everyone. By signing up for the tournament, you agree to all of the following rules.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- III. Tracks: 1. New York Circuit Old CircuitCar: 2002 Chevy Corvette Z06 Date: June 23RD Lobby 1: American Racers. GMT-5 8:00 PM Lobby 2: European Racers. GMT 0 8:00 PM Laps: 15. Damage: Simulation ABS: ANY TCS: On Stability: Off Shifting: Any Suggested Line: Any 2. Silverstone International Raceway International CircuitCar: 2008 Porsche GT2 (997) Date: June 24TH Lobby 1: American Racers. GMT-5 8:00 PM Lobby 2: European Racers. GMT 0 8:00 PM Laps: 11 Damage: Simulation ABS: ANY TCS: On Stability: Off Shifting: Any Suggested Line: Any 3. Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe Bugatti CircuitCar: 2007 Peugeot 2007 Super 2000 Date: June 25TH Lobby 1: American Racers. GMT-5 8:00 PM Lobby 2: European Racers. GMT 0 8:00 PM Laps: 15 Damage: Simulation ABS: ANY TCS: On Stability: Off Shifting: Any Suggested Line: Any 4. Circuit de Catalunya Grand Prix CircuitCar: 2007 Seat Leon Supercup Date: June 27TH Lobby 1: American Racers. GMT-5 8:00 PM Lobby 2: European Racers. GMT 0 8:00 PM Laps: 18 Damage: Simulation ABS: ANY TCS: On Stability: Off Shifting: Any Suggested Line: Any 5. Nurburgring Nordschleife Full CircuitCar: 2010 Audi R8 5.2 Date: June 28TH Lobby 1: American Racers. GMT-5 8:00 PM Lobby 2: European Racers. GMT 0 8:00 PM Laps: 3 Damage: Simulation ABS: ANY TCS: On Stability: Off Shifting: Any Suggested Line: Any 6. Camino Viejo de Montserrat Full CircuitCar: 2008 Maserati GranTurismo Date: June 29TH Lobby 1: American Racers. GMT-5 8:00 PM Lobby 2: European Racers. GMT 0 8:00 PM Laps: 10 Damage: Simulation ABS: ANY TCS: On Stability: Off Shifting: Any Suggested Line: Any 7. Rally di Positano Full Circuit ReverseCar: 1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV Date: June 30th Lobby 1: American Racers. GMT-5 8:00 PM Lobby 2: European Racers. GMT 0 8:00 PM Laps: 4 Damage: Simulation ABS: ANY TCS: On Stability: Off Shifting: Any Suggested Line: Any 8. Suzuka Circuit Full CircuitCar: 2004 Mazda RX-8 Date: July 1st Lobby 1: American Racers. GMT-5 8:00 PM Lobby 2: European Racers. GMT 0 8:00 PM Laps: 5 Damage: Simulation ABS: ANY TCS: On Stability: Off Shifting: Any Suggested Line: Any 9. Sebring International Raceway Full CircuitCar: 2004 Cadillac CTS-V Date: July 2nd Lobby 1: American Racers. GMT-5 8:00 PM Lobby 2: European Racers. GMT 0 8:00 PM Laps: 6 Damage: Simulation ABS: ANY TCS: On Stability: Off Shifting: Any Suggested Line: Any 10. Mazda Raceway Laguna SecaCar: 2005 Ford GT Date: July 5th Lobby 1: American Racers. GMT-5 8:00 PM Lobby 2: European Racers. GMT 0 8:00 PM Laps: 10 Damage: Simulation ABS: ANY TCS: On Stability: Off Shifting: Any Suggested Line: Any -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IV. Points: First Place | 8 Points | Second Place | 7 Points | Third Place | 6 Points | Fourth Place | 5 Points | Fifth Place | 4 Points |
The total # of points will be added up at the end to determine the overall winner. Prize: Copy of FM4 Second Place: Choice of FM3 DLC 3rd Place: TBD Race 1 Lobby 1: ThE BiG BrIcKK -5 3rdToasterr x -2 1stCJs87Stang -4 2nd Graylydolphin -5 4thoFANTOMASo -1 5th DNSRace 1 Lobby 2: squidFIN -1 4thGGGspeed -2 1stCloughie71 -4 2nd B4D B0Y69 -4 3rdThe Face Taker -3 5th DNSRace 2 Lobby 1: ThE BiG BrIcKK -5 HLR VIOLATION -3 Toasterr x -2 CJs87Stang -4Graylydolphin -5 PANNSTER -4 oFANTOMASo -1 Race 2 Lobby 2: squidFIN -1GGGspeed -2 Cloughie71 -4 B4D B0Y69 -4 The Face Taker -3 Race 3 Lobby 1: ThE BiG BrIcKK -5 HLR VIOLATION -3 Toasterr x -2 CJs87Stang -4Graylydolphin -5 PANNSTER -4 oFANTOMASo -1 Race 3 Lobby 2: squidFIN -1GGGspeed -2 Cloughie71 -4 B4D B0Y69 -4 The Face Taker -3 Race 4 Lobby 1: ThE BiG BrIcKK -5 HLR VIOLATION -3 Toasterr x -2 CJs87Stang -4Graylydolphin -5 PANNSTER -4 oFANTOMASo -1 Race 4 Lobby 2: squidFIN -1GGGspeed -2 Cloughie71 -4 B4D B0Y69 -4 The Face Taker -3 Race 5 Lobby 1: ThE BiG BrIcKK -5 HLR VIOLATION -3 Toasterr x -2 CJs87Stang -4Graylydolphin -5 PANNSTER -4 oFANTOMASo -1 Race 5 Lobby 2: squidFIN -1GGGspeed -2 Cloughie71 -4 B4D B0Y69 -4 The Face Taker -3 Race 6 Lobby 1: ThE BiG BrIcKK -5 HLR VIOLATION -3 Toasterr x -2 CJs87Stang -4Graylydolphin -5 PANNSTER -4 oFANTOMASo -1 Race 6 Lobby 2: squidFIN -1GGGspeed -2 Cloughie71 -4 B4D B0Y69 -4 The Face Taker -3 Race 7 Lobby 1: ThE BiG BrIcKK -5 HLR VIOLATION -3 Toasterr x -2 CJs87Stang -4Graylydolphin -5 PANNSTER -4 oFANTOMASo -1 Race 7 Lobby 2: squidFIN -1GGGspeed -2 Cloughie71 -4 B4D B0Y69 -4 The Face Taker -3 Race 8 Lobby 1: ThE BiG BrIcKK -5 HLR VIOLATION -3 Toasterr x -2 CJs87Stang -4Graylydolphin -5 PANNSTER -4 oFANTOMASo -1 Race 8 Lobby 2: squidFIN -1GGGspeed -2 Cloughie71 -4 B4D B0Y69 -4 The Face Taker -3 Race 9 Lobby 1: ThE BiG BrIcKK -5 HLR VIOLATION -3 Toasterr x -2 CJs87Stang -4Graylydolphin -5 PANNSTER -4 oFANTOMASo -1 Race 9 Lobby 2: squidFIN -1GGGspeed -2 Cloughie71 -4 B4D B0Y69 -4 The Face Taker -3 Race 10 Lobby 1: ThE BiG BrIcKK -5 HLR VIOLATION -3 Toasterr x -2 CJs87Stang -4Graylydolphin -5 PANNSTER -4 oFANTOMASo -1 Race 10 Lobby 2: squidFIN -1GGGspeed -2 Cloughie71 -4 B4D B0Y69 -4 The Face Taker -3
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ThE BiG BrIKK Member
Join date : 2011-05-30
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:58 pm | |
| The formats good and all, but there is one (or two) inconveniences. There will be two races running with DlC cars. How will that go down? | |
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Rockon2dawn Honorary Member
Join date : 2010-04-11
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:04 pm | |
| Races 2,4 & 9 clash with EUR's Tournaments which run Saturday & Wednesday | |
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Saltine713 Honorary Member
Join date : 2009-12-19
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:26 pm | |
| Is there anyway to reschedule the EUR tourney or maybe make it earlier?
Also, I just noticed the DLC issue and CJ and I are working on replacement cars. | |
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EZT MAKO 6669 PLR Leader
Join date : 2010-03-07
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:29 pm | |
| I will be very limited as to the races I can attend, but will race in the ones I can for sure. Not overly concerned with the points, just want to have some fun racing! | |
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HLR Rokko BBR Co-Leader
Join date : 2011-01-23
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:34 pm | |
| I can't make em all either, but I'll be able to run more than half of them. | |
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Saltine713 Honorary Member
Join date : 2009-12-19
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:57 pm | |
| If you are a good racer you still have a chance to win even if you don't make all of the races. That is why I put down so many. | |
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Saltine713 Honorary Member
Join date : 2009-12-19
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:58 pm | |
| Also, please register for the tourney and you can also put down which races you are attending | |
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Retpetty Honorary Member
Join date : 2010-03-23
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:04 pm | |
| since it seems a few people cant make all the races, will every race count or will there be like 1 or 2 throw away races to keep it close?
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:24 pm | |
| Interested. Is there a way to post the car builds ? My tuning style is very weird, like 30psi front and 20 psi rear,...stuff like that. I prefer to apply my tunes . Thank you. |
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ThE BiG BrIKK Member
Join date : 2011-05-30
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:51 pm | |
| Gamertag: ThE BiG BrIcKK Timezone: Gmt -5 Lobby 1 or 2: Lobby 1 Bought Vinyl?: Yes Bought all tunes? Not up yet Skill Level: 5 | |
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Toasterr x Honorary Member
Join date : 2010-01-17
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:53 pm | |
| I am interested as well and like Ret want to know if there will be any throwaway races, so if we miss a few races or the track doesn't suit our style, there are a few races that won't count.I know I can't make all of the races but if this is half as fun as the FvCvD seemed to be I'll be elated as I missed that series | |
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Retpetty Honorary Member
Join date : 2010-03-23
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:32 pm | |
| plus it might come down to more about whom can attend all teh events rather than the fastest racers. | |
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Saltine713 Honorary Member
Join date : 2009-12-19
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:52 pm | |
| - o fantomas o wrote:
- Interested. Is there a way to post the car builds ? My tuning style is very weird, like 30psi front and 20 psi rear,...stuff like that. I prefer to apply my tunes . Thank you.
Tires will not be tuned. Only non-tuneable parts will be added, such as engine parts, so that it is a Spec race and therefore fair to everyone and only driving skill determines the winner. | |
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Saltine713 Honorary Member
Join date : 2009-12-19
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:54 pm | |
| - Retpetty wrote:
- since it seems a few people cant make all the races, will every race count or will there be like 1 or 2 throw away races to keep it close?
I think I know what you mean, but what is the exact definition of throw away races? It depends on how many people miss races. If almost everyone does and there are only like 2 people that make every race, then I may eliminate a race or two. It could be the total of points or the average of points. Maybe their could be a curve of points like on an exam.
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Saltine713 Honorary Member
Join date : 2009-12-19
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:54 pm | |
| DLC issue has been fixed. | |
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Retpetty Honorary Member
Join date : 2010-03-23
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:00 pm | |
| bascially whereby you only count a persons best 5 races outta 7 or so. jsut allows people to still have a chance that cant make all the races or whom have bad races. f1 way back us to us that system btw | |
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Saltine713 Honorary Member
Join date : 2009-12-19
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:01 pm | |
| Oh so like best x out of x for everyone or for only that particular racer? | |
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Retpetty Honorary Member
Join date : 2010-03-23
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:02 pm | |
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Saltine713 Honorary Member
Join date : 2009-12-19
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:13 pm | |
| Update:
Tunes will not be bought. You can make your own tune, but with ONLY the following optional (highly recommended parts)
A: Engine and Power -Air Filter: Race -Fuel System: Race -Ignition: Race -Exhaust: Race -Camshaft: Race -Valves: Race -Displacement: Race -Pistons and Compression: Race -Race Aspiration if it applies -Race Intercooler if it applies -Race Flywheel
B: Platform and Handling -Brakes: Sport -Springs and Dampers: Sport -Anti Roll Bars: Sport -No chasis reinforcement -Race Weight Reduction
C: Drivetrain -Race Clutch -Sport Transmission -Race Driveline -Stock Differential
D: Tires and Rims -Race Tire Compound -Stock Tire Widths -Stock Rim Sizes -Any rims | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:17 pm | |
| The only way we will truly know if it's not "TUNED" is by forcing No Tuning in the menu before the race starts.
Think that's going to be the only fair way.
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Saltine713 Honorary Member
Join date : 2009-12-19
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:18 pm | |
| Well if they use the parts I described in the first post, those parts do not allow tuning, so it should be fine. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:22 pm | |
| Right, but I'm saying, just do it. |
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HLR Rokko BBR Co-Leader
Join date : 2011-01-23
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:00 pm | |
| sport trans allows tuning of the final drive ratio. and tire pressure is always tuneable. those are the only two I could see. | |
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Saltine713 Honorary Member
Join date : 2009-12-19
| Subject: Re: Around the World and Back Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:13 pm | |
| That is fine. That really won't allow too much, I was really trying to avoid any handling tuning. | |
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